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web client login very slow ESXi 6.5

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I have a few esxi servers distributed around the country. The hardware is all HPe Gen 10 DL 380 and ML350 with lots of CPU and RAM

 

When the systems are built at head off on the local lan the web client login is almost instantaneous but once we deploy them out to site they are VERY slow

Definition of slow:

put IP into browser, it complains the cert is unsafe,continue, the screens goes blue, login appears

 

Times between going blue and login:

Windows 10

Explorer 11: 30min to 60min

Opera: 5-10 min

Chrome: 30 min

Firefox 5-10 min

Centos 6

Firefox 5-10min

 

The connections are all about 1Mb/s and have worked perfectly for years with the fat clients.

 

I have looked at the DNS and that seems ok.

Licenses are mostly Essentials but I tried a Free one and also a "eval" and it is the same with all of them.

 

There is obviously something I am missing but I have to solve this before the mass upgrade of all of the 5.5s


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